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Post by kilop on Mar 19, 2020 22:09:25 GMT
I know during this difficult time and were all easily caught up in this and all want to chat about it. However, can we use this page just to step away from it and talk about rugby for a bit of light hearted relief
I just rewatched the Salford Wigan match and my god we were good second half. So with this in mind can u give me ur ratings of 10 for our new signings?
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Post by twistthemellonman on Mar 19, 2020 23:31:43 GMT
Dan Sarginson definitely 8/9 out of 10 so far great aggression in both attack and defence just hope his injuries stay well away and he can find some consistency.
Luke Yates 6/7 out of 10. Being used completely differently to what he was at London but i think he's adapting to the interchange forward well as a solid no frills prop.
Pauli 6/7 definitely one of our strike players who i personally think has done a lot more than i lot would have expected due to fitness levels etc. However he does seem to wander away from the games at times and his defence is a bit suspect.
Seb 7/8 for me definitely the sort of prop we needed and him and Pauli coming off the bench when they get going as seen at Wigan have been deadly. Still getting back slowly after a poor previous season but he's looking like he could go back there fingers crossed.
Chris Atkin 5/6 clearly there's a quality player in there but he's clearly shown he's definitely not a organising half. He'd definitely be better paired with someone like brown to see his best or like at KR start as hooker. He'll definitely get more chances hopefully the coming season and hopefully he'll find his feet before brown goes.
Connor Jones 4/5 definitely struggled with both the speed of the ruck and defence but imo showed enough that given the chance could be a right gem for us. But up now I'd have Atkin in front of him if we need an interchange 9.
Rhys Williams 7/8 definitely a surprise don't think anyone expected him to do as well as he's done definitely a Carney style player in the fact that he'll make you a load of yards but is gonna be suspect in defence. Currently the second highest metre maker so deserves his spot.
Elliot kear i can't comment on as i haven't seen him play sorry.
Oliver Roberts 5. Solid but nothing spectacular just the same as Greenwood who's also around a 5 so far. Both have come back off the back of bad injuries so are gonna take a while to get back up to speed but both shown in the oast seasons to be quality so would definitely be hoping we tie them both down permanently
Kevin Brown 7/8 definitely not the magical maverick Hastings was but for me this season has showed he still has it. Might not be popping out of everywhere like Hastings did but you can see he has that right edge sorted to a tee and it's looking really dangerous with Evalds and Sarginson all chiming into the line. However he's definitely not got long left and his injury record could come up again however as everything good in that section he's been a good stop gap signing until hopefully next year if all goes well.
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Post by JJR on Mar 20, 2020 6:39:57 GMT
TTM can't see much wrong with all that.
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Post by johnh1 on Mar 20, 2020 10:35:48 GMT
I’d give Kevin Brown a 9 (apart from his brain fart which probably cost us the game). He is being unfairly compared to Jacko who is/was a freak. He’s a good organiser and if the season progresses, I think his combination with the bigger players near the line will be hugely successful. His winning try against Wigan was superb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 11:27:09 GMT
I think 9 is a bit much for Brown! We’ve looked very unorganised in the opposition 20 apart from some brief spells, last tackle options have been poor, and he’s hardly been involved until we get in the opposition half. Kicking has been left to Tui and for the most part assists (and a few tries) have been down to Tui and Evalds. Add to that the sending off and I’d give him a solid 6.
Agree with the rest. Sarge has been the best buy. Ikahihifo has been excellent and will get better. Yates has much room to improve but he did look better against Wigan and I’m sure he’ll get there. Williams’ defence was much improved last week - it’s my only complaint against him.
Pauli has a long way to go - he can be an asset eventually but will always be a risk in defence I think. Atkin hasn’t done much but agree that he might be best as a sub hooker or utility player to run at tired legs late on. Roberts and Greenwood need to use this time off to get fit. Not sure if Jones will make it at this level but deserves another chance. Ormondroyd and Kear - we shall see.
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Post by mrg on Mar 20, 2020 11:55:48 GMT
Agree with most of the above but I'm on the fence about Sarge. There's been a couple of times when he's been too greedy and forgotten about his winger, there were 2 chances against Wigan and one in the Huddersfield game when Williams was outside him and in space but instead of passing he tried to barge through the two defenders and got tackled with the ball. He redeemed himself somewhat in the Wigan game with the tackle on Bevan French and if his defence wins us matched then great, but we need points too and if he can remember to offload then he'll be a fantastic signing.
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Post by bonitared on Mar 20, 2020 12:50:48 GMT
Agree with most of the above but I'm on the fence about Sarge. There's been a couple of times when he's been too greedy and forgotten about his winger, there were 2 chances against Wigan and one in the Huddersfield game when Williams was outside him and in space but instead of passing he tried to barge through the two defenders and got tackled with the ball. He redeemed himself somewhat in the Wigan game with the tackle on Bevan French and if his defence wins us matched then great, but we need points too and if he can remember to offload then he'll be a fantastic signing. A great signing. Hes not a classical centre but,what you lose in his ability to put his winger in,you gain from the rest of his game which has been tremendous. I was underwhelmed when we signed him but I was wrong. Disappointed in Atkin. His game looks too limited. Really happy when we signed Connor Jones with the caveat that he didn’t seem big enough. Not writing him off . Kevin Brown is class and you don’t lose that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 19:07:43 GMT
The pubs are closing.
The end of the world is nigh 😂
The Barton Arms is busier than any other Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 19:13:31 GMT
Sorry back on topic.
Brown I'm really undecided, his brain fart is pretty much inexcusable, he's still got it but not sure he's committed to giving it.
Sarginson looks a step up, really top drawer centre.
Jones I think needs a bit of time and bulking up.
PP I think when he's used correctly is a gem, trouble is we seem to think he's a big minutes prop.
Seb, class, total and utter class.
Yates, sorry but Watson has got it wrong for me, he waz outstanding for London as an 80 minutes #13 and presumably that was what Watson was swayed by so why change his role?
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Post by JJR on Mar 20, 2020 19:50:31 GMT
First two deaths in Salford from Coronavirus. And obviously a number linked.
Take it seriously and take really good care.
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Post by kilop on Mar 20, 2020 23:12:03 GMT
First two deaths in Salford from Coronavirus. And obviously a number linked. Take it seriously and take really good care. Think u may have misread the title of the post. Appreciate this is worrying time and am no way downplaying it. But we all need a bit of light relief so can we focus on our team which bring us joy. For me Sarge has been immense and I feel all the new players are starting to gell just rewatched the Wigan game and u can spot the moment it clicks.
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Post by kreuzbergred on Mar 21, 2020 0:21:23 GMT
I see the NRL With all it's massive Incomes and mega Salaries and TV Deals has still asked the Australian government for financial aid Even though they Reported a Surplus of AUD $30.1M (£14.8m ) there playing all games behind closed Doors, Including NZ Warriors who are temporarily based in the Gold Coast due to the Kiwis closing there borders, Not a bad place to be Exiled to. Doesn't seem that much At all £14.8 million compared to $30.1m AUD
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Post by kilop on Mar 21, 2020 11:12:54 GMT
I know we were looking at adding another player to the squad , probably not going to happen now due the finances, but what position or player do u think we would have been looking at? For me it would have been another prop, although we’ve still not used ormondroyd yet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 12:18:18 GMT
We can’t keep adding forwards in the hope that one comes good - I think we’ve got enough to work with now and should work on getting the likes of Greenwood and Roberts fully fit. Burke and Ormondroyd should use this time to work out how they can fight their way into a bench prop spot. Another would be good but look at KR - they are struggling to find a replacement themselves and they have been looking since the season started.
I’d prefer we wait for someone with a bit of flair - ideally a scrum half as we’ll need one next season. Doesn’t need to be consistent but someone with a bit of magic to change a game. With our budget they’d likely have to come with baggage!
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Post by Astleyred on Mar 21, 2020 20:18:15 GMT
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