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Post by hillbillyred on Oct 21, 2019 15:03:29 GMT
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Post by reddevil89 on Oct 21, 2019 15:07:58 GMT
It's Leeds what do you expect, got the rfl wrapped round there little finger
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 15:22:58 GMT
The rules these days mean that breaches under a certain amount get a fine - it’s less than Wigan last year so going by the rules, ok. I think any breach - especially when you are buying yourself out of relegation (as they did in 2018) should be a points deduction but the clubs agreed to these rules.
But regardless, this ‘admin error’ excuse is a load of nonsense- they’ve obviously attempted to game the system. Just own up, apologise and move on.
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Post by JJR on Oct 21, 2019 15:45:29 GMT
The rules these days mean that breaches under a certain amount get a fine - it’s less than Wigan last year so going by the rules, ok. I think any breach - especially when you are buying yourself out of relegation (as they did in 2018) should be a points deduction but the clubs agreed to these rules. But regardless, this ‘admin error’ excuse is a load of nonsense- they’ve obviously attempted to game the system. Just own up, apologise and move on. First breach in 25 years they say, they've (Hetherington) aligned to the RL rules, owned up, paying the fine, apologised, changing their system, could have loaned out a player to overcome it, and hopefully we all move on. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 15:54:56 GMT
Spin, spin, spin.....they knew what they were doing and that it was under the points deduction threshold which is why they didn’t loan anyone out. They needed everyone as they were in trouble. Wigan also claimed ‘admin error’ last time.
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Post by JJR on Oct 21, 2019 16:00:59 GMT
You seem to be the oracle.
They played the game within the rules and payed their dues.
What's the issue?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:10:30 GMT
Eh? You don’t need to be the oracle to work out that you don’t get fined £20k and another £10k suspended for ‘playing within the rules’.
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Post by JJR on Oct 21, 2019 16:26:51 GMT
If you go over the speed limit in your car, and you get caught, you know the rules and you pay the fine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:33:15 GMT
Surely there needs to be context here, Wigan did it to help beat the drop and it appears Leeds have done the same.
In effect the RFL are sanctioning cheating to avoid relegation.
In my eyes that's morally bankrupt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:33:33 GMT
I’ve no idea why you were disagreeing with me JJR when I don’t disagree with the punishment either. Either you have completely missed my point or you are trying to pick an argument with me for some reason. Either way I’ll leave it there as Leeds are not really my concern.
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Post by JJR on Oct 21, 2019 16:47:59 GMT
What I don't understand LR is that Leeds have committed a rule breach , first one apparently in 25years, although they were in relegation trouble a couple of years ago, and are paying the fine. I don't understand why we have to see it as spin, why couldn't it be a genuine error, unless you know more than the rest of us.
My issue is it's simple and I don't see what all the fuss is about. I assume the RL has applied the rules.
If the rules are wrong then that's the RL issue but those are the rules.
But I do agree it's done, end of.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:55:29 GMT
It’s simply use of the term ‘admin error’ that bothers me, plus a few other things in that press release that are trying to say ‘we accept the punishment but it’s not our fault’. The salary cap is very tightly monitored - either they knew or they messed up so either way are to blame. Thats what I meant by spin.
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Post by JJR on Oct 21, 2019 17:15:40 GMT
We'll never know and I have no reason to judge or disbelieve. They do admit the it was their fault. A clean record for 25 years must have some value, hence my questioning the word 'spin'.
Anyway another of life's mysteries, we'll never really know.
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Post by Carnster on Oct 21, 2019 19:12:12 GMT
Uncle Gary knows how to play the system.
I've witnessed first hand many years ago how he works, and it isn't pretty. He does tend to just about stay on the side of the rules, but he flexes them awfully far in a way that would have you question his methods. Everything in this case may be as they say, but it's hard not to be cynical when you know how the powers at Leeds actually work behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 19:31:22 GMT
Uncle Gary knows how to play the system. I've witnessed first hand many years ago how he works, and it isn't pretty. He does tend to just about stay on the side of the rules, but he flexes them awfully far in a way that would have you question his methods. Everything in this case may be as they say, but it's hard not to be cynical when you know how the powers at Leeds actually work behind the scenes. My feelings exactly, I'd not be putting money on this being a genuine 'mistake'. No the cynic in me says that the rules have been bent to the nth degree. Also for me it shows how corrupt our system is, have an extra player on the field fleetingly and you get a points deduction, fail to disclose player payments (multiple times) and no deduction. Corupt. |
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