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Aug 10, 2016 18:27:38 GMT
Post by scoot on Aug 10, 2016 18:27:38 GMT
Disturbing little piece in the SUN today, stating that MCB will not be retained after the 8s, possibly going to Widnes
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Aug 10, 2016 18:41:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 18:41:48 GMT
I'll be honest if MCB goes it is a sad indication of where we are, if we are to be a top 8 force players of the quality of MCB are what you build a squad with.
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Aug 10, 2016 19:08:01 GMT
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Post by Redrum on Aug 10, 2016 19:08:01 GMT
Can you blame him with all this uncertainty crrated by marwan? He is proving what a fantastic winger he really is and has put himself in the window well and truly. Good luck to him i say.
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Aug 11, 2016 8:26:45 GMT
Post by Carnster on Aug 11, 2016 8:26:45 GMT
I'd love for us to keep him.
The realities may be different though. I understand that Clubs can't retain everyone, and with us not knowing where Ian and Tim want the team to be heading next season, player-wise, these things will happen. It can't help the Club being in the M8's again, which means that retention and re-signings are put on hold until SL status is confirmed can't help the situation. He's coming to the end of his contract and is playing really well. I'm sure MCB will be offered something at Salford. Whether it's what he wants may be another question.
I wouldn't blame him for keeping his options open.
I think fans although they may be disappointed if he leaves they have to realise the realities of the game don't often meld with what we would like to happen. This happens at every Club and is not an indictment of Salford in my eyes. It's just the fluctuating coming and goings of employees in a workplace.
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Aug 17, 2016 17:09:18 GMT
Post by eehred on Aug 17, 2016 17:09:18 GMT
If it's true he's signed for Wakefield I will be very disappointed. He's either not been deemed good enough , so not been offered a new contract, or he just wants to get away anyway. I hope it's not a case of Koucash just offloading players ready for when he pulls the plug and departs All this uncertainty isn't good.After 60 years of watching Salford I am close to giving up now. I really thought when MK took over with his big money and ideas that we were in for the good times again. Now I'm just fed up and deflated. It's like having a favourite old dog that's on its last legs----------- maybe time to have it put down and end everyone's suffering. 😔😔
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Aug 17, 2016 17:36:41 GMT
Post by knightsthatsay on Aug 17, 2016 17:36:41 GMT
if MCB does depart, I would like to think he would be to a team with perceived 'better' prospect and development for him personally. I see Wakefield as a side ways step at best!
Hope he stays though.
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Aug 17, 2016 20:28:48 GMT
Post by bonitared on Aug 17, 2016 20:28:48 GMT
Looks like he's off which is a great shame. He's the sort of player MK said we would no longer lose. He said on the radio that he'd stay if the deal was right. Wigan I could have understood,but Widnes or Wakefield come on ! He'll score a hatful wherever he goes. As I say,great shame
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Aug 17, 2016 20:41:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 20:41:51 GMT
Looks like he's off which is a great shame. He's the sort of player MK said we would no longer lose.He said on the radio that he'd stay if the deal was right. Wigan I could have understood,but Widnes or Wakefield come on ! He'll score a hatful wherever he goes. As I say,great shame That's what I was thinking, we might not have brought him through our system but letting a talented young British player leave is a retrograde step.
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Aug 17, 2016 21:05:29 GMT
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Post by red666 on Aug 17, 2016 21:05:29 GMT
I can't help but wonder where our season would have ended up had MCB not been injured at Huddersfield. We've certainly not been short on the 'go forward' this season and it suits his speed and ability to a tee. Had he been able to hit the form we've seen in recent games straight from the Huddersfield game we'd be in a totally different situation position wise I'm sure. I'd be sad to see him go, if that is the case, as we seem to have finally got a team that can bring the best out his game.
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Post by kreuzberg999 on Aug 17, 2016 21:26:42 GMT
We must have problems in the Club if he Prefers the Tetley stadium @ Dewsbury to Das Grand - Stadion auf Dem kanal
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Aug 18, 2016 9:09:51 GMT
Post by boltonred on Aug 18, 2016 9:09:51 GMT
I have heard this rumour of him to Wakefield but yet to see some actual news about it, where is this coming from?
Will be incredibly disappointing if that's the case and I think sadly telling of the state of the club for the future. Kinda smells of Marwan not wanting to put anything else into the club as he plans to go. I really hope I'm wrong...
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Post by Carnster on Aug 18, 2016 10:10:18 GMT
I really think people should be a little more thoughtful on the subject of players leaving.
As fans, we're emotionally attached to our club and we deal with these things emotionally rather than with our heads. Our first thoughts are to be disappointed and feel the need to attach blame and then use it as an example of how negative the whole Club is in general. I think this is a self-defeating attitude that really contributes to the actual negatives at the Club such as crowd figures.
The reality of a professional sport means that people come and go. Just like any workplace you get people who are ambitious, happy, unhappy, disruptive, leaders, and any number of other traits. They earn a living by giving us our hobby. For us it's whether we start the week feeling optimistic after a win, or worried all week about the next fixture. It's banter at work, and something to look forward to. For them, it's their living. It's hard hard work, and putting your health on the line. It's contracted short-term work where it's tough to see even a few years into your future.
Players come and go. In May we had to legally offer MCB something or allow him to search for other employment before the end of his contract. We don't know what Watson and Sheens has planned for the next two years and it's their job to make tough decisions about players. I trust their judgement. I like MCB and would like him to stay, but we don't know the realities that the lad faces. His employment contract is coming to an end and he's spent a lot of time out of the squad this season. He may have had offers from elsewhere that secured his financial future for the next few years. We don't know. Maybe he fancies a change of scenery. Who knows?
I've seen the Club and MK getting stuff on social media thrown at them by fans who just go with their emotions about a subject and don't stop to think about the bigger picture, and I think this is more damaging in the long run than losing a player. Players come and go. That's the reality of pro sport. Our fans should listen to the many interviews Sheens has given and the parts where he talks about the ebb and flow of the game off the pitch, contracts, signings, loyalty in players are really worth listening to. I think a lot of RL fans are still quite parochial in the way they believe things should happen. Like they've got stuck in a mentality from thirty or forty years ago while modern life and the modern game move on.
Just my thoughts.
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Aug 18, 2016 10:42:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 10:42:31 GMT
I think personally what worries me about MCB going is that since the Doc arrived he has made very positive noises about player retention yet we have lost Broughton, Snyed, Taylor (OK I accept Taylor was only on a 1 yr loan) and now in all likelihood MCB and I think most would agree with the first 3 in the squad we would have been in a much healthier position this term regardless of the points reduction.
I do have niggling a voice at the back of my head telling me a new deal would have cost more and that the Doc is unwilling now to commit to these new deals, his announcement that he will assess his position as owner at the ends of the middle 8's and then total silence adds fuel to my concerns. This is for me adding additional tension to an already fraught situation (Leeds & Hudds in the 8's were totally unforeseen) regarding retaining SL status and I'd imagine is having an effect on fans commitment to the club.
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Aug 18, 2016 11:24:01 GMT
Post by Carnster on Aug 18, 2016 11:24:01 GMT
Trouble is, MR, is that you're taking one situation (MCB possibly going) and then using it to apply to another area (The uncertainty of MK) without any evidence except your own uncertainty on the subject. Got to be careful linking unrelated things together as it's quite easy to convince yourself, and then consequently others, of its validity. This was my point in the post above.
We can't keep every player that plays for us. I'm sure there may be others before the start of next season. Teams and Clubs are built this way. Sometimes it's that simple and there isn't any underlying reason behind every decision a Club makes.
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Aug 18, 2016 12:46:45 GMT
Post by bonitared on Aug 18, 2016 12:46:45 GMT
Too deep for me,all this analysis. We shouldn't be losing MCB to a club of similar status ,period. MK isn't going anywhere in my opinion. He loves to create intrigue. Certainly can't blame MCB as he said he'd stay if the deal was right. I think that ship has sailed now.
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